< Previous44 T H E R I F L E M A N Correspondence To T h e E d i t o r, T h e R i fl e m a n , Stirling, August, 1943. D e a r S i r , COUNTY ASSOCIA TIONS. I have read with interest the various letters regarding County Associa tions as compared with District Associations and, as you know, I had a little experience before the War, I am giving my views. There is much to be said in favour of County Associations. In the first place I found it was a great help in forming clubs. You laid down that County Associations could not be formed with fewer than five clubs, so when I had helped to form say three clubs in a county, I let it be known that when other two clubs were organised a County Association could be set up. In Scotland I was able to form eight County Associations, and but for the fact that so many clubs were necessary, the number of new clubs would have been much fewer. When a County Associa tion was organised, the Lord Lieutenant and other influential people in that particular county would take an interest in the sport, usually for the first time. A County League and other competitions would then be organised and a friendly rivalry would be fostered amongst the various county clubs. A large district Association loses that local touch, so necessary in all sports. From club events one goes to county events, and in the inter-county competitions clubmen would strive to improve, in order to be honoured by shooting for his or her county. Then let us remember the Scottish Open Meeting, the S.M.R.C. tried if possible to get the County Associations to apply for the meeting to be held in some popular town, and encouraged the interested County Association to include so many confined County competitions in the programme. No, the large district Associations would develop into one big National .Association, and one day we might find it in opposition to the S.M.R.C. That is one thing we do not wish to happen. Mr. Kelso's experience of County Associa tions does not go back far enough for him to know the benefit of these. Certainly the West of Scotland Association has filled a gap during war time, but to try and do away with County Associations would, in my opinion, be a mistake. But for the war I feel that ere this the map of Scotland would have been all pink, and I am looking forward to the day when the War will be over, and we will all have settled down to enjoying the sporting side of rifle shooting. I hope to be back again in harness, organising new clubs, and before I give up for good, trust to have the other twelve County Associations to make Scotland ail pink in the S.M.R.C. Handbook. In conclusion, may I be allowed to say there are several other points that could be brought out in favour of County Associations, but which catmot be mentioned here. They may not be apparent to Mr. Kelso, but Mr. Pethard, and other officials of the S.M.R.C. know all about them. Progress must be made after the War, but large Associations in place of the county bodies would not be the right kind of progress in the interest of the sport. Yours sincerely, A. B. M. KEMP . Hebden Bridge, 30th August, 1943. To T h e E d i t o r, T h e R i fl e m a n . AIR TRA VEL .22 MA TCHES. Dear Sir, Referring to the question of the extension of International shooting b o t h f o r c l u b s a n d n a t i o n a l t e a m s . I t i s o b v i o u s n o w t h a t a i r - t r a v e l soon after the end of the War will become almost as simple and common as motor car travel. In my view the cost will soon be within the reach of the man in the street, and Transatlantic journeys to America and Canada (for short periods such as week-ends) will be quite a practical p r o p o s i t i o n . P e r h a p s n o t i m m e d i a t e l y, b u t c e r t a i n l y w i t h i n t w o or three years from, the cessation of hostilities. In view of this, I think it would be advantageous for clubs to discuss the matter and discover their feelings in relation to the idea of shooting matches with Canadian, American and European clubs. The questions to be answered are : (1) Do many of our clubs desire this type of thing? (2) in what form? (3) Do they think any thing can be done now towards the development of contacts with foreign clubs and, if so, what ? Roughly, my scheme is that a club would arrange a match with say a French team, and would travel by air on, say, a Friday evening, be entertained and accommodated by the members of the French Club with whom they would shoot a match on the Saturday, and return on the Sunday. Later in the season a r e t u r n m a t c h c o u l d b e h e l d . I think there is no doubt that this type of thing would be very enjoyable and would certainly bring us much nearer to the people of other nations. If expense is considered a barrier perhaps just one match per year could be held as a sort of highlight with, of course, a return. I am very interested to hear other people's views on this subject. Yours faithfully, HAROLD K. SUTCLIFFE. Musselburgh, 5th My, 1943. To The EDtTOR, The Rifleman. H O M E G U A R D S H O O T I N G C O M P E T I T I O N . Dear Sir, I have read your article on the recent Home Guard, Shooting Competition with great interest, but I draw from it conclusions very different from yours. Everyone must undoubtedly agree with your statement that " success in battle depends on accurate shooting, and no matter how well organised you may be, how good your communications are, and how good the administration is, all that is valueless if ALL ranks are not absolutely efficient in the use of their persorial weapons" and the further statement (perhaps a trifle optimistic) that " every bullet fired by the Home Guard has got to kill a German, and that can only be done by training." Your article suggests that the Home Guard is getting on towards this happy state, whereas the fact is exactly the opposite. In this competition 2,336 teams fired. Allowing 10 firers per tearri, this makes a total of 23,360. This sounds a fine figure, but putting the strength of the Home Guard at roughly 14 millions, it represents approximately one man in 60. Now I do not suggest that only one Home Guard out of 60 can shoot—far from it. In my own small company of 100 about 30 can shoot reasonably well. What I do say is that no deduction whatever about the general shooting efficiency of the whole company can be drawn from the performance of a selected and specially coached team. That is the worst of all the usual type of shooting competition—they are for teams only, and so long as the team does well the rest of the company need not be made to exert itself too much. The remedy is a simple one—a competition between companies or even battalions in which everybody on the strength of the Unit, without exception, has to fire. The method of scoring might be on the general lines of the Imperial Challenge Shield competition run by the N.R.A. To make it simpler ordinary service targets could be used and each man might fire 5 rounds grouping, 5 rounds application, and 5 rounds rapid. The best 70 per cent of all scores would be added and an average score per man worked out. Of course all targets would have to be supplied, stamped 'and scored by the S.M.R.C.—a pleasant thought if there were ever I4 million competitors. A sirnpler method still would be something on the lines of the old Territorial Army method. Everyone on the strength fires a 5-rotjnds group, a lin. group to score 4 points, a l^in. 3 points, a 2in. 2 points, a 24in. 1 point, a 3in. and over and all defaulters scoring nil. A percentage of the possible score would then be taken. For example, if a company had a strength of 120, its possible score would be 480. If it scored 300 points this would count as 624 per cent. A competition like this would give a true picture of the shooting efficiency of the Home Guard, and I venture to say that you would be doing a public service by promoting it. I should be willing to forecast that however attractive you made the competition the entry would be lamentably small—not because of the work involved but because the majority of company commanders would be unwilling to face the fact that the shooting efficiency of their company as a whole is still very low. At any rate it would be an interesting experiment. Yours sincerely, A. J. MORNARD, Capt. 2nd i/c E Coy., 7th Battalion City of Edinburgh Home Guard. We are much obliged to Capt. Mornard for his letter of the 5th July, but we are afraid that he will find it is not quite such a simple rnatter to get every Home Guard in the country shooting in a compe tition. It would be ideal, of course, but so long as there is that indifference to musketry amongst so many of the officials, probably due to so much other training on hand, we are not likely to reach that pitch. We have found that it is most difficult to get officials to take an interest in competitions, especially if they appear to be a little WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UKSeptember, 1943. T H E R I F L E M A N 45 complicated. A straight shoot for a team of eight or ten men is far more popular, although the percentage in our last competition was not a very large one. In 1941 we endeavoured to get as many of the Home Guard personnel shooting as possible, and with that object we commenced a competition for teams of 15 drawn from sections. At the end of the first stage a team of eight was selected from each section to shoot in the second stage and the leading section in that stage went through to the final, and that team represented the Platoon. Out of all the publicity given to this we only received 256 teams, and we came to the conclusion that the conditions of the competition were far too complicated for the Commanding Officers to bother themselves with. We give below the comments of the author of our first set of conditions, Major Underhill.—Ed. Letchworth. mh July, 1943. To The Editor, The Rifleman. H O M E G U A R D S H O O T I N G C O M P E T I T I O N S . Dear Sir, Thanks for giving me a sight of Capt. Mornard's letter, which I return herewith. He certainly seems to rank the shooting efficiency of the Home Guard very low indeed. Different districts are bound to have different standards, and my experience is that in so far as the subject under discussion is concerned, i.e.;-Miniature Range Shooting, then the standard achieved by the Home Guard is very high indeed The Editor's comment above is noted, but I do think that Capt. Mornard did not fully appreciate the conditions under which the competition was fired, more particularly those calling for:— (A) Teams of ten from one Platoon. (B) A |th inch bull only. Had he fully appreciated them he would have realised that the standard reached was far above that of the Regular Army. If he doubts it I would wager that under the same conditions no three Regular Army teams will equal the aggregate score of 2941, or over 98 per cent of the possible scored by the first three teams in the competition final. 'Conditions to be exactly similar, but the teams to have been on the strength of the same platoon at the date of the challenge 28th July, 1943. The wager could be anything up to £10, the winner to agree that it be paid to any War Charity you care to name. I am encouraged to think that Capt. Mornard did not fully appreciate the conditions when he suggests a general test in the form of a grouping practice, with maximum points given for a one-inch group. Frankly, for battalions who take their musketry seriously, such a test would be useless as a measure of capacity. Does he realise that grouping is merely a specific test of : A. The Rifle, and B. The Eirer, and that once the rifle is correct and the firer efficient then the object of a grouping practice disappears. I stressed this point recently when arranging for a shoot with another Middlesex Battalion ; nevertheless they were adamant in their demand for (a) a grouping practice, and (b) an application practice. I enclose cards which show that my contention was fully justified, i.e., if the man is efficient and his rifle be correctly zeroed, then in an application practice he will group into the bull and vice versa. The sixteen targets sent, each show not only all bulls, but also groups well below the standard suggested, thus bringing out the points that a grouping practice is redundant once a rifle and firer are ^ perfeet. . ' Allowing for transfers, which have been numerous, we have had, or have got not less than 500 in the 30th Middlesex Battalion who would average less than a one-inch group, but tWs is not nearly up to S.M.R.C. Club standard. I am in no way boasting because I am, in fact, not nearly satisfied with our standard yet. Of what use would a one-inch group be to the members of your clubs as a measure of capacity ? At least 95 per cent of your shooting members would shoot less than a one-inch group every night of the year. If Capt. Mornard will reflect for a moment he will recognise that all who got 60 per cent or over in the competition achieved the equiva lent of marksman's rating according to Army Miniature Range standards and about 95 per cent, of the total entry did achieve this. I repeat what I wrote you at the time ; " A really niagttificent effort." The real answer is that S.M.R.C. Club standard is far ahead of either Army or Home Guard standards, and v/e should all become club conscious. Whether Home Guard, Civil Defence or Civilian, we should all aim at forming or joining a Rifle Club. We would then s o o n l e a r n t h e d i ff e r e n c e s b e t w e e n : 1. An accurate and inaccurate rifle. 2. Rock like steadiness and girlish apprehensiveness. 3. Squeezing and snatching. 4. A clear definition of the target and a woolly outline. 5 . C h a n c i n g j u s t t h i s o n e o r a l w a y s r e d u c i n g c h a n c e t o a minimum. Incidentally, we should also learn that unless we could be depended upon to shoot a steady 95 per cent or 96 per cent, at a 3 '8th inch and not a one-inch bull then we would not be good enough to represent our club in matches. Such a standard is well within the compass of fit men with reasonable eyesight. Yours sincerely, O. UNDERHILL. P.S.—Should you care to send the targets to Capt. Mornard to illustrate my point he may destroy them after he has seen them. There is no point in returning them. Musselburgh, 5th August, 1943. To T h e E d i t o r, T h e R i fl e m a n . Dear Sir, I must have expressed myself very badly, for Major Underhill appears to have misunderstood my previous letter completely, par ticularly as he wishes to wager that no three Regular Army teams would equal the score of the winning Home Guard teams. Whether they would or not interests me not the slightest—the winning teams made, as he says, a really magnificent effort. The whole point of my letter was that the competition only affected about one person in 60, and that from the result of a competition between selected teams no deduction whatever can be drawn about the vast majority of the Home Guard who did not enter . As for his remarks about grouping I must confess I do not quite see what he is getting at. He says " Once the rifle is correct and the firer efficient then the object of a grouping practice disappears." Exactly—but surely that implies that a grouping test is an excellent test of whether a man is efficient or not. However, I hold no special brief for grouping. In place of his challenge, which has nothing to do with my contention at all, I suggest t h e f o l l o w i n g t e s t . L e t M a j o r U n d e r h i l l t a k e a n y H o m e G u a r d Battalion he likes and arrange a test which everyone on the strength must fire within, say, a month, everyone to have one attempt only. The test can be anything he likes grouping, application, snapshooting or rapid, on any target, of any size, shape and colour. Let the Battalion submit the targets to the S.M.R.C., who will report what percentage are (1) good, (2) moderate, (3) poor. I am not interested in the £10. If the result is better than I think it will be, no-one will be more delighted than I, but I am convinced that nothing but harm comes from complacently shutting one's eyes to unpleasant facts. The first step towards improvement is to admit the need of it. Yours sincerely, A. J. MORNARD, Capt. To T h e E d i t o r, T h e R i fl e m a n . Letchworth. 15th September, 1943. Dear Sir, Until receipt of the proofs I was unaware that Capt. Mornard had written in reply to mine of 28. 7. 43 and while I wish to avoid controversy I do feel that his last letter calls for some reply. He says of Grouping " I do not quite see what he is getting at." Let me elucidate. Assume that in the Competition referred to, possible points were given for a one inch group which is the Standard suggested by Capt. Mornard as a test, in para 4 of his first letter The result of the Competition shows that such a test would be utterly useless, since the majority of the entry would have tied, with possibles, for first place. I thought, and still think, that I had made my point clear. Make the Standard a | inch group and you have a real test, better still, by doing what you did and awarding the possible for all WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UK46 T H E R I F L E M A N Sepetmber, 1943. shots cutting a | inch ring situate in the centre of the target you not only tested the ability of the firer to AIM—HOLD and PRESS THE TRIGGER. CONSISTENTLY i.e. GROUPING, but you have also tested ability to zero a rifle. Together these spell APPLICATION, a definition of which as applied to rifle shooting is " The correct application of .knowledge gained during grouping thus eliminating A L L f a u l t s w h e t h e r f o u n d i n t h e fi r e r o r t h e r i fl e . " Re the penultimate para of Capt. Mornard's letter dated August 5, and still sticking to the subject i.e. .22 shooting. In my opinion the official war course for H.G.'s Part 1 and III form infinitely better tests than anything Capt. Momard has so far proposed, and they have the added merit of official approval. From the results of such tests which have come to my notice I am entitled to my opinion that, in this subject the Standard achieved is very high, certainly, the majority would have reached his one inch group, i.e. his P O S S I B L E , " S t a n d a r d . Yo u r s S i n c e r e l y, O. UNDERHILL. Thatcham, hh September. 1943. To T h e E d i t o r, T h e R i fl e m a n . T H E P O S T - W A R R I F L E . Dear Sir, Having followed with interest the various articles on the post-war rifle I would like to make a few observations. Since this War started the Home Guard has re-awakened my interest in firearms,and I have on many occasions made comparisons with my Vickers Special .22 and my Lee-Enfield bolt action—(.22 Martini action against bolt action). From all the hints and coaching articles written in the S.M.R.C. journal. The Rifleman, the main points brought out as far as target shooting is concerned, as little movement as possible when you have got set. Now the Martini action, in my opinion, is ideal for the minimum amount of movement when set to make a score. The bolt action is more of an overhand movement and tends to use up more energy. You can move a Martini lever and reload without removing the right elbow from the ground if your position prone is right. This all seems elementary, but I personally favour the Martini action, the same movement in my opinion could be improved as follows :—A combination of the Martini action and the bolt action as follows ; The underhand lever to work the bolt forward, and it is not a difficult matter to lock same either by a cam actuated by the underhand lever or helical slot. After firing the lever would disengage locking cam and slide bolt backwards for ejection and feeding forward the next round. Friend Banks mentions small clips for .22 that to my mind is not what's wanted. The above idea under lever and sliding bolt would have a magazine like the 9 m.m. Lugar and one could fill up by hand .22 or a small loader like the Sten. Clips, in my opinion, are out of date with modern weapons. Riflemen should have loaded magazines to interchange these to be, carried in pouches (already loaded). One other point. The underhand lever, combined with the bolt action, tends to keep the rifleman on his target all the time as his view in front is unobstructed. These opinions are based on a study of military weapons as I have found them, I am referring to single shot type with magazine feed. Yo u r s f a i t h f u l l y, J. CRAMB. Thatcham. To T h e E d i t o r. T h e R i fl e m a n . TELESCOPIC SIGHTS. Dear Sir, As I do a bit of gunsmithing in my workshop through necessity, owing to short demand these days. I have toyed with the idea of making a telescopic sight for my .22. If any of your readers could help in this matter I would be grateful. 1 have some photographic lenses that could be used, and the tubing and mounts 1 could make. Any information on the subject would be welcomed, and 1 am willing to pay for same. Yo u r s f a i t h f u l l y, J. CRAMB. Thatcham, Chatham, Kent, lit/; 1943. To T h e E d i t o r, T h e R i fl e m a n . T W O R A B B I T S — O N E S H O T . Dear Sir, 1 read with interest the letter from Mr. Coffin in the June issue of The Rifleman, concerning the killing of two rabbits with one shot f r o m a . 2 2 r i fl e . During a short stay in Sussex, a little over a year ago, I shot two rabbits with one shot, it was not a fluke, inasmuch as that I tried for the double kill. The rifle used was a .22 Greener (Parkerifled), take down type of about 6-j-lbs. in weight and fitted with a Weaver 344 'scope sight. The ammunition used was the American Leader, solid point. I watched two rabbits playing in a field on the edge of a large wood, 1 lay completely concealed by the thick foliage of the wood. 1 was able to judge the range at my leisure and to await the moment when the rabbits were in line. My 'scope was set, as it always is, for 60 yards, using normal velocity ammunition. 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CHROMOS GLASS reduces glare and is invaluable in a bright light, eye from strain. Rifle Sight and Target distinct and sharply defined m |. H. STEWARD, LTD. Opticians to the National Rifle Association (by Appt.) 406, STRAND, LONDON, W.C. 2 Established 1852. WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UKSeptember, 1943. 47 The range when stepped out was about eighty yards and the light was i f a r f r o m b e i n g g o o d . < I shoot hundreds of rabbits annually with a .22, but this was the first time that I had been able to pull off the double kill. 1 do agree with Mr. Coffin on what he said about the bullet being deflected on striking a rabbit or other similar target, however, I think the deflection is very small unless coming into contact with a main bone. ■ 1 had some most puzzling experiences last Autumn when out for rabbits. On several occasions I shot a rabbit through the head and upon retrieving it, I found that one of the hind legs had been fractured. I I could not find any evidence of a bullet wound on the leg, it all had i me baffled for some time, then one day it came to me that the rabbit on being struck through the head, struck out with such violence, that it had caused the fracture. I have had some really marvellous shots with the .22, both in the good old days of peace and in war. 1, like many other boys started my shooting with a catapult and later graduated to an air rifle. The utter pleasure that shooting has given me from that time, 1 am unable to express on paper. I can safely say that my pleasure in life is measured from one shooting day to the next one. 1 wish to point out that if any reader has ideas of becoming a game shot, the thorough knowledge of one's quarry is essential, both from the bag filling point of view and the most important of all sides to it, the humane side. In the days when the high velocity ammunition was obtainable it was easier to rneet with success at judged ranges, however, as Mr. | Banks states in his book, they cannot group as closely as the normal velocity ammunition. Yours faithfully, D . T A Y L O R , ( C p l . ) - C. M. Police. P.S.—The double shot was witnessed by a Sergeant of my unit. West Horsley, Surrey. llh, y»/r,1943 I To T h e E d i t o r , T h e R i fl e m a n . \ Dear Sir, T W O R A B B I T S — O N E S H O T. Bdr. R. H. Coffin's letter in the June Rifleman on this subject is | rather interesting. I once saw this done, a year or so before the ; present war. 1 was out with a friend shooting rabbits on a farm in Cornwall when he did just this on the spur of the moment and at the first attempt. It was no accident but was done deliberately, as an experiment. j The two rabbits were about four or five feet apart, the nearer being 1 shot through the head and the other tjirough the shoulder. The rifle used was a bolt action .22 B.S.A. with hollow nosed ammunition. With regard to Bdr. Coffin's remarks about rabbits getting down j their holes after receiving mortal wound I'have never known this to occur, provided the ammo, used was hollow nosed and preferably high velocity such as I.C.I., H.V., or Winchester Super Speed. I have noticed that rabbits shot through the shoulders usually just fell over making no other movement and those shot through the head jumped around for a few seconds before collapsing, but even in these cases no attempt was made by any bunny to get down his hole. What j happens when solid bullets are used I do not know as 1 always use the } hollow nosed variety for rabbits—when I can get any rabbits to shoo^ \ these days! i The hollow nosed H.V. bullet seems to have a very great " shock- I ing " eflfect besides considerable damaging power, and for this reason I think that there are only two ipossible shots—the head and the shoulder—if the rabbits are wanted for the pot. A rabbit shot through ! the tummy is a horrible sight, and is only fit to be buried. I Could we have some more articles on sporting shooting in the Rifleman ? I Yo u r s f a i t h f u l l y, JOHN H. SIGGS. 1 Guddford and District Rifle Club. I 4 6 , D u n b a r v e n u e , Norbury, S.W. 16 : 13r/;, y»/v, 1943. ' To The Editok, The Rifleman. T H E C L U B R I F L E . Dear Sir, With reference to the correspondence appearing recently in The Rifleman, and further to my previous remarks to you on the subject, may 1 very briefly ret out the following points ;— ' T h e A c t i o n . — T h e M a r t i n i a c t i o n w i t h i t s s h o r t s t r i k e r t r a v e l , is undoubtedly capable of very fine performance with match ammu nition, but to many men, especially those who have been used to the Army weapon, the bolt-action has a strong appeal and it has advan tages. particularly with some ammunition. R e a r S i g h t . — A s l a r g e n u m b e r s o f s m a l l - b o r e r i f l e m e n a r e o f middle age and over, the aperture rear sight is essential, and its effi ciency has been proved beyond doubt over a long term of years. Front Sight.—Whatever advantages the blade front sight may- have from a military point of view, if insisted upon for small-bore riflemen, it would, I'm afraid, discourage many of the members who are no longer young, and whose eyesight is not of the best. It has always been a strong point with us that small-bore rifle shooting is suitable for persons of all ages. It is the enthusiasm and keenness of men of middle age and over which is the main stay of rifle shooting in this country. Many rifle clubs would cease to exist without the e f f o r t s o f t h e s e m e n . I t s h o u l d a l s o b e b o r n e i n m i n d t h a t s m a l l - b o r e rifle shooting is a sport and not a military exercise. The shooter should be allowed to use a ring sight suitable for his own eyesight, or use a blade or barley corn if he so desires. Sling.—There should be no objection whatever to the use of the sling. More is learned about the use of the rifle from using the sling than without it. Weight of Rifle.—The weight of the P.14 is approximately lOlbs., and the weight of the No. 4, I see, is given as 91bs. 3 ozs. The weight of the .22 rifle should be from approximately 9ilbs. upwards, but no objection to any reasonable weight. The difference between the Rifle Club and Military shooting has been referred to ; I do not think there is any question that Rifle Club shooting is far superior, and I have yet to hear of any small-bore rifleman who has failed with the military weapon on account of his different training, and whatever his style of shooting may be, his knowledge of the rifle and care of rifles is well in advance of that of the average soldier. Rifles To Be Used " As Issued."—This is a very elusive term a n d d i f fi c u l t t o c o n s t r u e . W h e r e d o e s p r o g r e s s c o m e i n ? I f a standardised rifle is rigidly adhered to, there would be little if any pro gress made. Magazines.—No one, I presume, would advocate the use of magazines or repeating rifles on a club range. If they were allowed, the risks would be considerably increased, and also, of course, the Insurances. Positions In Shooting.—The Authorities would, no doubt, have something to say on this matter, and where ranges are approved for all positions, it will entail very careful watching by club officials, especially on the larger ranges. Where the range is a small one with provision say for three or four shooters only, the risks would not be so great. Incidentally, it may be mentioned that at International Small-bore Meetings on the Continent, where " all positions " are in vogue, a heavy rifle with hair-trigger is generally adopted. All marking and target changing is done from a trench at the butts, and no one, for any reason, is allowed to advance beyond the firing point. May I finish these brief remarks by referring to the small-bore rifles being used by the Americans and Russians. The wonderful scores made by club teams in those countries prove that they have not only the shooters but also the shooting equipment. It is surely not an insurmountable difficulty to take a leaf out of their book and to construct a first class bolt-action rifle at a reasonable price. Fancy prices are a deterrent, but to have something poor because it is cheap would be a disaster for our movement. I profoundly disagree with the suggestion to ban the ring foresight and the sling. That would be pushing us back to almost the dark ages of rifle shooting, in con clusion, I would like to refer to Page 25 of the June Rifleman, con firming what we small-bore shooters have known for sorrie years past of the Russians' shooting ability, and also Page 31, " Fire Less and Fire Better." We have some way to go to emulate both the Russians and the Americans in small-bore shooting, and we could and should do it with proper equipment, but to become the appendage of the Army and to copy its methods, as some correspondents appear to desire, would simply write " Finis " to all progress in sriiall-bore shooting in this country. It would be a retrograde movement and small-bore rifle shooting in Britain would become very mediocre and at no distant date die of inanition. Yours very truly, H. S. LONGHURST. WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UK48 T H E R I F L E M A N Sepetmber, 1943. To The Editor, The Rifleman. L E A G U E T E A M A V E R A G E S . Dear Sir, Thank you for sending me the various entry forms for the compe titions you will be organising this winter. I am very pleased to note that in the conditions you are stressing the necessity for club secretaries to render correct team averages in their applications. I consider it would have been more helpful if you had indicated how these correct averages should be calculated, as I still feel that there is a loophole for " pot-hunting " teams. They could average their team over a period of years, which would give a " correct" average and yet which might be considerably lower than the average for the past season. If you could give some lead in the manner that you expect averages to be calculated, I feel it would be a big step forward. I have always interpreted the team average to be given on the entry forms as being the average I expect the team to get during the compe tition I am entering the team for. As our teams have been steadily improving every season I have not felt it fair to enter them at the previous season's actual average. Instead, I have neglected each man's worst three scores for the season and averaged him on the remaining better scores, my line of reasoning being that if a man can average say 95 in eight shoots, then, by taking a little extra care he should be able to average that over the eleven matches. Thus our registered averages have always been higher than the actual averages obtained in the previous season's shooting. Until this summer my calculations have been pretty close, but in the Summer League this season we've had a few set-backs and so, for the first time, our teams haven't attained the average set them. It rather indicates that we have about reached our peak and we cannot expect to improve vastly any more unless we find some new members. Will you please therefore let me have your official interpretation of " correct " average. Does it mean the average for the last, say, three matches, or for the last season, or two seasons, or what ? If you could give this very important point a bit of publicity in The Rifleman I feel we would avoid situations such as has developed in the National League this summer. Our " B" team in 15th Division has exceeded the registered average for the team on six times out of eight and yet has only won three matches. The leading team has an average higher than that of our A team, which is in the 10th Division, and which inturn is shooting well up to its registered average. 1 must say the 10th Division is extraordinarily well matched, and until all rounds have been fired it will be impossible to pick the two winning teams. Our C team in Division 15 has exceeded its registered average on six occasions out of eight matches, and yet has only won one match. Obviously some teams must have been greatly underestimating their averages for this to occur. I consider your alteration of the promotion and relegation clause to be an excellent move. I presume the average referred to in the latest clause is the average to date in the particular competition being '4' x i" Deo/ shot, as distinct from the average for the last three matches which was stipulated in the old clause. Yo u r s f a i t h f u l l y, (Signed) G. W. GAFFER ATA.' [Our correspondent and other interested friends will find our answers in Competition Notes and Comments in this issue. The new regulation in league conditions referred to reads as follows (d) Members of all teams except the lowest must be registered. (e) If at any time after three rounds have been shot and the official scores have been issued, it is found that lower team men have a better average than higher team men, such lower team men must be transferred to the higher team and a corresponding number of higher team men with the lowest averages, relegated. The above new rule means that the average should be taken on the previous two matches plus that of the third period concerned.—Ed.] The Editor, The Rifleman. Harlescott, 30I/I June, 1943. Dear Sir, I have noticed in several editions of The Rifleman devious designs and ideas for target frames to hold the S.M.R.C. 5-bull Targets. I have tried many of these, plus a few patented ones and have not yet found one that gives real satisfaction. Therefore, I venture to put forward to you my own idea which we use in my range, and which I find has the following advantages :— 1. 'Very easy to make. 2. Costs nothing to speak of. 3. Holds target firm enough (For Indoor range only). 4. Quickly put on and taken off. 5. Whole of target is exposed. What more can one want ? The frames consist of two long pieces of wood l^ins. x |in., and secured by two smaller pieces of wood liins. x iin., which holds the two long pieces apart the correct distance according to the type of target used. For each target four short nails lin. long are knocked into the wood as shown on the sketch, leaving the nail protruding ^-in. The head of the nails are then cut off, leaving a little spike sticking up. The nails are so positioned that the target is just pressed on to these four little spikes, and there is the target neatly and quite firmly held. - If the wood at the top and bottom of the target is painted dead white it helps sighting especially on the lower two bulls. i find these frames last a very long time, and even with the very bad sliooters being trained, it has taken quite a lot of stray shots to make tne frame unserviceable. The frames are Just placed on two longish nails sticking out of the butt support. Yo u r s f a i t h f u l l y, W. H U R D L E , Hon. Sec. 3 A.F.V. Depot R.C. /J-xf nailtd ot b a c k — ' ■ 7" ' Naili beheaded fixed dose to edge of wood \ Inside width to be ; than the target Nails beheaded and fixed clase to edge of wood ^ l e n g t h a s r e q u i r e d ffi/Wt WITH TARGETS IN POSITION WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UKSeptember, 1943. T H E R I F L E M A N49 Competition Notes and Comments The National League is almost finished for another season and Wimbledon Park have already completed their programme. All other teams have one more match to shoot, and by the time these notes are read all teams will have had their final results. These competitions are always interesting, although, unfortunately, it seems difficult for some, secretaries to be able to give the averages of their teams quite so accurately as they might. In some instances we agree teams improve as they go along, but this is not always the case, and when teams are incorrectly placed the interest for the remainder is destroyed. T h e fi r s t d i v i s i o n c a r r i e s w i t h i t t h e S . M . R . C . N a t i o n a l Te a m Championship, and as Wimbledon Park have won this division once more, they are again champions. This is the third year in succession and the fourth time in five years. We congratulate them ! Worples- don and District A team are bound to be second and although they have another match to shoot against Ham and Petersham ,A the result c a n n o t a ff e c t t h e i r p o s i t i o n . ' E i t h e r H a m a n d P e t e r s h a m A o r Addiscombe may be third, it all depends upon the result of their last matches. Falkirk Lord Roberts have easily won the second division, but the second place rests between Walthamstow Ensign and East Hull A, w h o m e e t i n t h e l a s t r o u n d " T h e w i n n e r o f t h i s m a t c h w i l l t a k e t h e second prize. West Ham and District A have won the third division and Kynoch are runners-up ; these positions cannot be affected by t h e r e s u l t o f t h e l a s t r o u n d m a t c h e s . K i n r o s s a n d M i l n a t h o r t m u s t beat their old rivals, Guardbridge, to be certain of winning the fourth division, but should they lose and Ellon win, the aggregate will probably d e c i d e i n f a v o u r o f K i n r o s s . Dunblane are too far ahead to lose their place at the head of the fifth division, but the present second and third teams, Reading Aero drome and Woodall-Duckham, meet in the last round and shoot it out for the second prize. Lowestoft and District A cannot be removed from the leading position in the sixth division, but here again the second and third teams, Enfield and West Ham and District B, meet in the final match to decide which team will be runners-up. Keelby Institute A seem likely to win the seventh division owing to the fact that they have recently been putting up some remarkable scores. This team, in fact, are making better scores at 50 and 100 yards than they are at 25 yards I Metropolitan Police A are almost certain to be second. Worplesdon and District B team will easily win the eighth division and G.W. Rly., Swindon, will be second. Metropolitan Police P Division should have no difficulty in winning the ninth division, but they must at ■ least draw in the last match. If they lose, they may have to give up'the leadership. PortlethenB are bound to be in the prize list. A remarkable position has been reached between Falkirk Lord Roberts B team and Richmond Police in the tenth division—they tie in every respect and they shoot against each other in the last round. This is quite exciting I Wembley A are easily at the head of the eleventh division, but who will be second, C.L'y.M.S., Belfast, or St. Nicholas, depends entirely upon the results of their matches in the last round. Cheam A will easily win the twelfth division and Rotherham B should not lose the second place. Keelby Institute B and Atlas and Norfolk Works B are first and second respectively in the thirteenth division with an equal number of match points. Both of these teams should have no difficulty in winning their last match, in which case no alteration will take place. S.T.C., New Southgate, B will win the fourteenth division, but the second place is an open question between Brigg and Wembley B. There is very little to choose between these teams, and each will try their hardest to win their last engagements and to get as high a score as possible. Hythe and District United Services A should win the fifteenth division and Cheam B will try hard to keep in the second place. Birlee should have no difficulty in keeping at the head of the sixteenth division and Hythe and District United Services B team cannot very well lose the second position * * .A VERY fine entry was received for the National Team Handicap, in which competitors are allowed to choose their own starts. 450 teams entered, which indicates the popularity of this type of competition which gives the less skilled riflemen some chance against the better class teams throughout the country. That this system is of the greatest assistance to many teams is borne out by the large number of totals of 395 and over. Without the assistance of the start given many of these teams would not have the slightest chance of winning a match against the better teams. During the course of the competition totals of 400 were made on eleven occasions, and Liverpool City Police B team performed this feat twice. Scores of 399, 398 and 397 were numerous, but even this fine shooting did not save many from defeat. An unlucky team in this respect was Dunfermline, who made 399 in the fourth round, but lost the match after their targets were re-scored with the .25 gauge. Two teams who met in the Semi-final, Liverpool City Police A and B.T.H. London C., made 400 each and the result of the application of the .25 gauge gave the match to the Police by two points. This was very hard luck for B.T.H.. but they have the satisfaction of trying hard to beat their redoubtable oppo nents. The Police therefore go into the final once more, and their o p p o n e n t s w i l l b e R o t h e r h a m A t e a m . * « * We had a splendid response to our invitation for entries for the Junior Summer Competition, and it reached the very fine number of 230 teams. This involved 920 competitors and the entry included support from all kinds of youth organisations such as the Army Cadet Force, Sea Cadet Corps, Junior Training Corps, Air Training Corps, Home Guards, Boy Scouts and junior members of rifle clubs. This compe tition is rim in two sections, major and minor. Any lads up to 18 years of age may shoot in the major section, and the minor section is confined to lads under 15 years of age. In addition to this compe tition the Boy Scouts Competition for the Duke of Connaught's Challenge Shield was run concurrently oh behalf of the Boy Scouts' Association. These lads were also entitled to compete for the S.M,R.C. Junior Summer Competition prizes, in addition to their own provided they conformed to the special age limits. The major section was won by the junior members of the Perth City and County Rifle Club after a tie with Sedbergh School A team with a score of 785. These targets were regauged with a .30 gauge, which increased the winner's score by three points, and as the second team only received one additional point the Perth team were awarded the first prize. The minor section was won by Sedbergh School F team who scored 768 and Downe House B team, which is composed entirely of girls, was second with 745. The first prize in the Scout Compe tition was won by St. Columbus 53rd Ayrshire (Largs) Troop A with a score of 773. Hamble Sea Scouts secured the second prize with a total of 759. The junior prizes were won by St. Columns 53rd Ayrshire (Largs) Troop B team with a score of 737, and Brunswick School Troop B team, shooting at 20 yards, were second with 724. The full scores are published in this issue. * * * The support accorded the Badge Competitions was not extremely great during the three summer months. This is a seasonable fall-off however, as many rifle club members have many outdoor pursuits to attend to. We hope that now the winter months are coming club members will resume their activities in this competition and previous winners will no doubt see that their yearly sequence of badges is made up, including the one for this season. Club secretaries are reminded of the trophies to be won by clubs whose members gain the highest number of Master-shot and A Class badges and for those who obtain the highest number of points for these successes The list, commented upon in the June issue, but which was held over, is now published, together with those won since that date. In the Master-shot section seven badges were won from the end of May up to the end of August and 103 A Class badges were obtained. 37 competitors secured B Class badges and 13 of the C Class were awarded. Junior marksmen are doing better this season and 19 A Class badges were issued, together with a few of the lower classes. Interest in the Efficiency Badge section is still maintained. 56 A Class badges were issued for the Aperture Sight section and 22 were issued for both the B and C Classes. Juniors also obtained 11 badges. Very few were applied for in the Open Sight section, which is probably due to the fact that most rifles now are fitted with aperture sights and open s i g h t s a r e s e l d o m u s e d . * The Summer League, with its record number of 55 divisions, is almost finished, the last period closing on the 3rd October. We hope it has been interesting to all teams, and although the great majority cannot win prizes there are only two in each division, they have the consolation of many good matches which, we feel sure, has given them satisfaction on many occasions There have been misfits in some cases, but we hope to overcome this if it is at all possible, and we can assure secre taries it is always our aim to group teams of equal strength together as far as we possibly can. We have to depend upon the team secre taries very largely in this respect, and we feel sure they will give us their h o n e s t c o - o p e r a t i o n . - r , • u - , Many teams have been shooting for the first time in this class of competition, and once they settled down improvement was soon manifest in most cases. It is in the lowly placed teams that the value of these matches is shown and improvement in the use of the rifle is of course the principle aim of these events and that it is having the desired effect is most encouraging. Despite the number of good class teams who were shooting in this competition it is surprising that not one succeeded in reaching the full score of 5(X) points. Two teams, British Legion, Abingdon, and Falkirk Lord Roberts, made 499 each on one occasion, and the total WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UK50 T H E R I F L E M A N September, 1943. of 498 was only reached three times, once by Alexandra Palace A and twice by Falkirk Lord Roberts. This is most likely due to the tact that first class ammunition is not now obtainable and rifles must be ^ting a little worn after these four long war years. There are no fewer than 21 teams still unbeaten who are at the head of their respective divisions. Among these are five teams cornposed entirely of ladies. Maltby Civil Defence Ladies, Cardiff Ladies, Portsmouth City W.A.P.C., Heston and Hounslow Ladies H.M.S. Europa Ladies. It is most interesting to note the variety ot services and occupations, teams have been drawn from. We have had a great number from the Home Guard, many of whom have improved considerably and are doing well. Engineering firms, Aircraft manufacturers. Civil Defence, Royal Observer Corps, Road Transport, Police and Special Constabulary, Ladies, and their Services, the Royal Navy -and Royal Air Force, Air Training Corps, Sea Cadets, Rifle Clubs, and no doubt a few more, which goes to prove the interest now being taken in this very useful shooting. Truly all classes are setting about making themselves weapon minded. Attention is drawn to the amended League rule 5 (c) included in the conditions of the War-time and Pistol Leagues. This rule reads as fiMlows :—" If at any time after three rounds have been shot and the ofiicial scores have been issued it is found that lower team men have a better average than higher team men, such lower team men must be transferred to the higher team and a corresponding number of higher team men with the lowest averages relegated." For the purpose of this rule the jast three shoots of a competitor made at any period of the competition, after his first three shoots, will apply. When making entries for the League, secretaries are requested to be particularly careful in giving the averages of their teams. The success and interest taken in this kind of competition depends entirely upon the utmost accuracy in this respect. We are aware it is difficult sometimes to give these figures with certainty, especially with new formations, but we request the responsible person to do his utmost CO get them as exact as possible. We know that some weeks may between the entry and the commencement of the competition, and during that period certain improvements may take place. In this case secretaries are asked to acquaint the S.M.R.C. of the fact so that figures may be amended. If such cases should occur by the middle of November we ask that this step be taken. The interest for the whole season may be spoilt in any division should the average of a team be badly underestimated. In order to protect the great majority CH teams the S.M.R.C. will feel compelled to take drastic action should they consider that the occasion warrants it. HERE IS THE \SAFE AND CER T AIN REMEDY PHYSICIANS' REMEDY The average to be given should be for not less than the last ten competition shoots, but an abnormally high or low score should be Ignored. These scores should not be spread over too long a period, certainly for not more than one season, but it would be fairer if completed as near to the date of entry as possible. * * * The announcements of forthcoming competitions are published in b r i e f e l s e w h e r e i n t h i s i s s u e . Meantime a printed prospectus of each has been sent to all affiliated Club Secretaries or other officers concerned. Old 'Blood and Guts' One of the most legendary eharaeters in the United States Army is " Old Blood and Guts "—the Army's nickname for Lieutenant-General George Patton, Com mander of the American troops in Tunisia. His innumerable daring exploits, his brilliant imagi native profanity, and his striking, more than 6ft. tall, figure have given him many names—" The Green Hornet," " Buck Rogers," and " The Man from Mars," the last suggested by his specially designed crash helmet with its two leather gadgets to keep the earphones in place. An early adventure as a lieutenant was his single-handed slaying of a Mexican bandit who, in his fortress, had defied all assaults. " I'm going in after him," said Patton, and he disappeared. There was a sound of a gun duel, then silence. Finally the grimy Patton appeared again with the dead bandit on his shoulder. " He tried to get me when reloading," said Patton. " He shot fast, but not too well." " What do you think that fool of a son of mine did the other day?" said his father, referring to an incident at West Point. Young Patton had been seen in the butts standing between the targets during rapid fire practice. His explanation was: " I wanted to see what it is like to be u n d e r fi r e . " T H E A R M Y ' S J O Y Patton won very rapid promotion, and some of his tricks during manoeuvres were the joy of the Army. Once he tied brushes to the tails of a few horses. They created so much dust that the " enemy " thought a cavalry force was charging their positions. Patton set up a new world's record in target shooting at Stockholm. Tanks have been his hobby for 25 years. In the last war he commanded the first United States Tank Brigade. One day a mined bridge had to be crossed at any cost. Patton walked over it in front of three tanks. At 58, " Old Blood and Guts," it is said, can run 100 yards faster than the average West Point graduate. He always rides on top of a tank and carries two pearl-handled pistols. Gen. Ike Eisenhower wrote to Patton during the battle for North Africa, " Dear George,—The only tough nut left to. crack is in your hands. Crack it open quickly." Patton did crack it—at Casablanca, leading the attack in a tank, and capturing the place in four days. His battle order was : " We shall attack and attack until we are exhausted, and then we shall attack again." When he arrived at the Casablanca Conference he carried his two pearl-hafted pistols in his belt and had a machine-gun in his hand. Lieut.-Gen. Patton comes of a military family. Both his father and his grandfather were United States Army generals. Clement Yorke, in Sunday Dispatch. WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UKSeptember, 1943. T H E R I F L E M A N 51 S.M.R.C. War-Time Summer League, 1943 Conditions:—Teams of five. 10 shots each competitor at either 15, 20 or 25 yards. Proportionate targets used. As detailed team scores are sent to all competing it is not necessary to include such details below. L E A G U E T A B L E S A T N I N T H R O U N D . DIVISION I. 1 . H a m a n d P e t e r s h a m A 2. 13th Brighton Coy. B.B. 01 3. R.A.F., Hallon, A .. 4 . F a l k i r k L o r d R o b e r t s 5. Perth City and County A 6. Bradford 7. B.L., Abingdon 8. Alexandra Palace A .. 9. Cardiir City A 1 0 . L e i c e s t e r a n d D i s t r i c t 11. Portsmouth City A .. 1 2 . L e e d s A DIVISION 2. 1 . H a m i l t o n s A I. Hendon and Cricklcwood A 3. Lincoln ConstilutionaF A 4. Elgin 5 . A r d e c r R e c r e a t i o n A 6. Crescent A 7 . T w i c k e n h a m A 8 . H a m a n d P e t e r s h a m B 9 . R o t h e r h a m A . . 1 0 . W e s t H a m a n d D i s t r i c t A . . II. Swansea A 12. Lea and District A .. DIVISION 3. 1. Mountain Ash Constitutional 2. B.L., Wallington, A .. 3. S.T.C., New Southgalc, A .. 4 . W o o d a l l - D u c k h a m A 5. Kcighley A 6. B. Coy. Slh E. Riding H.G., A .. 7. Wood Top A .. 8. City of London Police A .. 9. Rolls Royce A 10. Henley-on-Thames A 11 . P a i s l e y A 12. No. 32 Maintenance Unit, R.A.F., A DIVISION 4. 1. Royal Aircraft Establishment A 2 . A r d e e r R r c r e a t i o n B 3 . A t l a s a n d N o r f o l k W o r k s A 4. L ydgate 5. B.T .H., London, A .. 6. City of Ely and District A 7. Bognor Regis 8. Hcston and Hounslow A .. 9. City of Sheffield Police 10. Peterborough Twenty A 11 . L e e d s B 12. Embankment A DIVISION 1. B.L., Mersea Island .. 2. Bristol Aeroplane Co., A 3 . D a i m l e r A 4 . A l e x a n d r a P a l a c e B . . 5 . H a m i l t o n s B . . 6 . L e w i s h a m A . . 7. Michelin A 8. March 9. Metro. Police P Division 10. Wimbledon Police 11 . L e y l a n d M o t o r s 12. No. 4 Maintenance Unit, R.A.F., A DIVISION 6 1. Metropolitan Police B Division A 2 . D o r c h e s t e r B r e w e r y 3 . W o o d a l l D u c k h a m B 4. Larbert and District A 5. Maltby Civil Defences A 6. Metropolitan Police N Division 7. Barnet Police A 8. Wick Old Stagers A 9 . C h c a m A 10. Springfield A 11 . C a f f e r a t a a n d C o . L t d . , A . . 12. Inland Revenue DIVISION 1. Perth City and County B 2. City of London Police^ B 3 . K e e l b y I n s t i t u t e A 4. Springfield U.S. 5. Whittlesey A s.W.D.L.P. Agg. 9 6]213 4452 96I2134442 952 0 124420 9513114450 95I3 11 4444 9513114423 9 604104450 9 40584441 923474431 93I574421 911734397 9I084378 S.W.D.L.P.Agg. 971I154441 953I134416 96I2134407 9333 9 4414 9333 9 4409 9333 9 4406 9405 84405 9-3 248 4399 92347 4408 .9 2347 4400 92256 4390 92 074 4384 s.W.D.L.P. Agg. 9900184439 9711154417 9612134407 9612134393 960.3124391 9504104399 940584384 9 30664372 9 30664337 92165 4396 9 00902405 9 0090845 S.W.D.L.P. Agg. 9 702144410 9612134413 9603124403 95 1 3114400 951311 4398 9504104400 950410 4386 9315 7 4381 9 3066 4346 9 306 6 4314 9 216 5 4324 91 1734349 S.W. D.L.P. Agg. 9 810 17 4410 9 711 154429 962I 14 4435 961 213 4420 9 4058 4398 94 058 4367 9 3157 4377 9 31573880 9 22 564370 9216 54345 920 74 4360 920 744347 s.W.D. L.P.Agg. 980 1164419 970 2144403 96 1213 4374 96 0312 4410 95 1311 4376 94 1494363 94 1494341 9 3157 4356 92 256 4355 9 3066 4334 9 21654337 900904342 S. W.D.L.P.Agg. 9 80I 16 4392 980 1 164390 96I 213 4403 96 0312 3902 9 51311 4356 6 . T w i c k e n h a m B 7 . F e l t h a m a n d D i s t r i c t A . ; 8 . K e i g h l c y B 9 9. Leeds C 10. Dennis Athletic 11. B Coy. 8th East Riding Bn. B.C., B 12. Harrow A 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11 . 12. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11 . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11 . 12. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11 . 12. DIVISION 8. Metropolitan Police B Division, B City of Ely District B H a w k e r A i r c r a f t A . . A.P.C.M., Dunstable R.A.F., Waddington, A G.E.C., Coventry, A Maiden A Marlborough K o d a k A Hackney Trolley Bus A H.M.S. Excellent No. 1 Plat., D Coy. 39th Cheshire H.G., DIVISION 9. W i l t s B r a n c h N . A . L . G . O Swansea B Metropolitan Police C Division Mid Wessex Water Co.. A .. Norwich Corporation Electricity Works Aircraft Elements Monmouth and District . . B . T. H . , L o n d o n , B . . Fictions Ltd., A London Transport Enfield A G.E.C., Wembley H.G., A Blackburn Aircraft A DIVISION 10. G l o s t e r A i r c r a f t A . . Lincoln Constitutional B L y t h a m S t . A n n e s A Gravesend W e s t H a m a n d D i s t r i c t B M a r t o c k a n d D i s t r i c t Wick Old Stagers B H a m i l t o n s C . . Corby Eaton, Norwich Wood Top B A.I.D., Eltham. A DIVISION 1 1. Springfield B Metropolitan Police W Division A Bute A Wa t f o r d a n d D i s t r i c t . . Alexandra Palace C .. Romsey and District Hendon and Cricklcwood B Heston and Hounslow R o t h e r h a m B Larbert and District B ..A DIVISION 12. 1 . A l v i s A 2. Caputh A 3. Chester-le-Street Divisional Police 4. B.V .P .M., and N.N.P .M., A 5 . L e w i s h a m B . . 6 . H o r s h a m A 7. Cafferata and Co.. Ltd, B . . 8. Loughborough Police 9. Jcssops A 10. Flarrogas 11. No. 7 Plat A Coy., 12th Bucks Bn. H 12. Appleby DIVISION 13. 1. F Coy., 14tli Middlesex Bn H.G. 2. S.A.I.D. 3. Portsmouth City A . . 4. R.A.F., Waddington, B 5. Piatt Bros., Oldham 6. Petworth and District A 7 . B . L . , W a l l i n g t o n , B . . 8. Weybridgc A .. 9. Crescent B 10. Prescot A n . K o d a k B 12. 55th Kent Bn., H.G. A S.w.D. L.P.Agg. 950410 4356 940584361 9 40584334 9 306-64317 9 20744301 9 I0 8421 1 910 823479 S.W.D. L.P.Agg. 980I 164406 980 1164379 952 ■ > 124460 952 2124373 960 3124353 960 3124346 940 584343 93 0 4 84342 9306 64356 92 ■> 5 64308 9009 04228 9009 04090 S.W.D. L.P.Agg. 981 0174395 980 1164382 9 702 144388 9 61213 4357 95-0410 4365 950410 4270 9405 84345 9 4058 4336 930664312 900743787 9 T ^ 082 . 3776 90090469 S.w. D.L.P.Agg. 990 0184373 970 2144364 970 2144362 960312 4276 9504104343 9 414 9 4329 941494291 940584086 9 30664282 9 30664276 9 10824066 9 00904249 S.w.D.L.P. Agg. 990018 4426 9801164359 9 6 2 114 4354 952 2124360 941 494340 94149 4336 94149 4326 9 405S4342 9 32484332 9 T 7 34286 9108 24234 9009 02819 S.W. D.L.P.Agg. 980 116 4385 971 1 154371 9702144362 9612 13 4301 9603124321 9603124308 950410 4277 93157 4260 9216 54057 9 T 08 24162 9108 24152 9009 03436 s.w. D.L.P.Agg. 99 00184395 98 1017 4357 9 60312 4338 9 60312 4324 9 5 I311 4325 950410 4354 94058 4335 9 3157 4288 93066 4306 9216 5 4255 910824190 a00 9 0 3278 WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UK52 T H E R I F L E M A N September, 1943. PIVISION 14. L B o r o u c h o f S o u t h e n d - o n - S e a 2. 3rd W.B., Warwicks, A 3. Metropolitan Police M Division 4 . G l o s t e r A i r c r a f t B 5. Royal Aircraft Establishment B 6. G.E.C., Coventry, B .. 7. Southern Railway 8. Hawkers Kingston A 9. Portsmouth City Police B . . 10. Peterborough Twenty B 11. Clayton A 1 2 . D a i m l e r B DIVISION 15. 1. A vro Institute A 2. Lensbury and Britannic House 3. A.S.T . Hamble H.G. 4. London Transport Fulwell T.B., A 5 . A t l a s a n d N o r f o l k W o r k s B 6. London Transport Muswell Hill .. 7 . L e i c e s t e r a n d D i s t r i c t 8. Putney Police Sub-Division .. 9 . W o o d a l l - D u c k h a m C . . 10. Rolls Royce B 11. Royal Army Pay Corps, Radclifle.. 12. No. 32 Maintenance Unit, R.A.F., B DIVISION 16. 1. South Molton Special Constabulary A 2. West Riding Constabularv Headquarters 3 . H o r s h a m B , . . . . . ' • • 4 . L e e d s D 5. Notting Hill Police A . . - 6. Richmond Police A 7. Barnet Police B 8. London Transport T.B. West Ham A 9. Metropolitan Police E Division 10. No. 3 Plat. A Coy. 2nd Lindsey Bn. H.G. 11 . S u r a m e r fi e l d A 1 2 . S . S m i t h a n d S o n s L t d . B DIVISION 17. 1. Heston and Hounslow Ladies 2 . T w i c k e n h a m C 3. B.P.C.M., Wouldham Works A R . A . F . , H a l t o n , B . . 5. S.T.C., New Southgate B 6 . M o r r i s M o t o r s A 7. Sunbury and District A 8. Metropolitan Police R Division A. 9. Tring A 10. L.T., Hackney Trolley Bus B 1 1 . S t . N i c h o l a s . . 1 2 . H a w k e r A i r c r a f t B . . DIVISION IS. 1. British Legion Wembley A 2. Bute B 3. Tunbridge Wells Police 4 . A l v i s B 5. B.L., Wallington, C .. 6 . K o d a k C 7 . E l y a n d D i s t r i c t C . . 8. Addiscombe B.. 9. Reading Aerodrome . . 10. B Coy 66th West Riding Bi 11. Air Ministry A 12. Burnham-on-Sea H.G., A DIVISION 19. 1 . W i t h a m A 2. C Coy 1st Dorsetshire Bn. H.G. .. 3. Keelby Institute B 4. Metropolitan Police S Division A 5. A Coy 2nd Stirlingshire Bn. H.G. 6. Hammersmith Police A 7. VVatney Combe, Rcid and Co. Ltd. 8. Batheaston 9 . M i d W e s s e x W a t e r C o . , B 10. A.I.D. Unit, Kidbrooke, A 11. Kclvlne, Basingstoke .. 12. Balliio A DIVISION 20. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11 . 12. C i t y o f L o n d o n P o l i c e C . . Cardif f B Brigg W e s t H a m a n d D i s t r i c t C . . H d q r s . 9 3 r d L a n e s . S t . H e l e n s B n . H . G . . Glastonbur>' and District A Honiton Springfield C . . M o b i l e U n i t , 1 s t L i n d s e y B n . H . G . , London Transport, Romford Blackburn Aircraft B Paisley B DIVISION 21. 3 r d V . B . W a r w i c k s U London, C . . L y i h a m S t . A n n c s B A us t in Mo tors H. G., A Barnstaple Special Constable .A L c w i s h a m C . . . . . S.W. D.L.P. Agg. 99 00184372 9 80 I164360 9 603 12 4319 9 60312 4256 9 513114326 95 3114292 93 1574205 92 654245 92 0744257 92 0744255 9 T 2644253 92 0744300 S.W. D.L.P. Agg. 9 80 116437! 9 80 I16 4335 9 60312 4369 96 03124301 95 04104331 9 5 0 410 4316 940 584316 9 405 84275 9 30 66 4308 9 30 66 4236 9 ->0744195 9 0090851 S.w.D. L.P.Agg. 990 0184365 971 115 4333 960 312 4287 9603 12 4207 9504 10 4308 950 4 104294 941494253 92-»564221 9 2 7 6 5 4220 920744262 9 T 2644058 9I 7 73 3305 S. w.D.L.P. Agg. 98 01164334 9 702144330 960 3124308 9603 12 4308 950 410 4315 93484299 9405 8 4275 940.584249 9 31574287 9 ->I654254 9 20744286 9 20743746 S.W.D.L.P.Agg. 9 801164332 Q7 0214 4339 96 I213 4338 96 0312 4327 960 312 4279 95 1 3 11 4259 94 149 4313 9405 8 4285 93 0 6 6 4295 9 2 07 44260 9 7 0 8 2 4206 901814228 S.W.D.L.P. Agg. 9801164382 9 80I16 4337 9 61213 4320 9 60312 4317 95 1311 4325 9504104263 94058 4277 9 40584273 9 3066 4275 93 0664227 91 08 2 2832 90090 3224 S.w.D.L.P.Agg. 990 0 18 4330 980116 4321 9801164297 960 3 ' 124284 9603124252 9 5 0410 4239 930664235 9 30 664190 930 664090 920 74 1594 910 8 2473 90090 2280 S.w.D.L.P. Agu. 9810174320 98 01164305 960 3 124279 9 603124259 9504104246 9 4I4 9 4243 7. Chambon H.G., A 8. No. 1 Plat. A Coy 1st C of London H.G. 9. No. 4 Maintenance Unit, R'.A.F., B 10. Meridan A 11. Congresbury H.G 12. Cafferata and Co. Ltd., C .. DIVISION 22. S. 9 9 9 9 • 9 9 1. 19th P}at.43rdC.ofLondonBn.H.G. 2. Heston and Isleworth Electricity Dept., A 3. Caputh B 4 . L e a a n d D i s t r i c t B . . 5. Norwich City S.C 6. Metropolitan Special Constabulary F. Div. 7. Poplar Trolley Bus Depot .. 8. Rothcrham' C 9. B Coy., 93rd Lanes. St. Helens H.G., A 10. A. S. Smith and Sons, Ltd., A 1 1 . F i c t i o n s L t d . B 12. Beamish DIVISION 23. 1. London Transport Morton 2. Stratford-on-A von 3. A.P.C.M.. Swanscombe Works 4. Richmond Police 8 5. Hawker Aircraft C 6. L.N.E. RIy., Liverpool St. Police A 7. R.A.F., Cranwell • 8 . N o t t i n g H i l l P o l i c e B 9. Hawkers Kingston B 1 0 . T w i c k e n h a m P o l i c e A 1 1 . M o r r i s M o t o r s B 1 2 . E n g l i s h E l e c t r i c C o . DIVISION 1. A vro Institute B 2. Birmingham City Police A Division A 3 . A l a n b y P l a t . H . G 4. Croydon A Dis. Wardens A 5. D Coy., 1st Bucks. Bn. H.G., A .. 6 . L a v e n d e r H i l l P o l i c e S u b - D i v i s i o n 7 . M i d l a n d B a n k A 8 . P u l s o m e t e r A 9. Petworth and District B 10. B.L., Wallington, D 1 1 . H a w k e r A i r c r a f t D •12. London T ransport Hornchurch A DIVISION 25. 1. Portsmouth City W.A.P.C 2 . C o m r a d e s D o n c a s t e r . . 3. London T ransport Hendon .. 4. B.L., Hexham 5. Hendon and Cricklewood C 6. Metropolitan Police L Division 7 . L y t h a m S t . A n n e s L a d i e s . . 8 . F e l t h a m a n d D i s t r i c t B 9 . L o n d o n T r a n s p o r t B a k e r S t r e e t 1 0 . D . M o r g a n R e e s a n d S o n s 11 . B r i t i s h E n k a A 12. B Coy.. 8th East Riding Bn. H.G. DIVISION 26. 1. Helston Detachment H.G., A 2 . L o n d o n T r a n s p o r t , T o t t e n h a m t 3. Bristol Aeroplane B 4 . K e e l b y I n s t i t u t e C 5. Crescent C 6. Embankment B 7 . R o t h e r h a m D . . 8. Downe House A 9. Ballards 10. A Coy., 93rd Lanes St. Helens, 11 . R . A . P. C . , R a d c l i f f e , L a d i e s . . 12. Thatcham H.G. and C.D., A H.G. DIVISION 27 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11 . 12. R o c h d a l e W a r d e n s A W h i t t l e s e y B . . T w i c k e n h a m D L o n d o n Tr a n s p o r t , H e n d o n T / B . . G.F..C., Wembley, H.G. B .. llfracombe A London Transport, Hackney T/B C.. Royal Army Pay Corps, Nottingham A A t l a s a n d N o r f o l k W o r k s C A u s t i n M o t o r s H . G . B Harrow B C Coy. 93rd Lancashire H.G. DIVISION 28. Auchtcrmuchly British Legion, Harrow L o n d o n Tr a n s p o r t , F u l w e l l , T / B . . Hemel Hempstead M a l t b y C i v i l D e f e n c e s B P a i s l e y P o l i c e . . Carditf C L.N.E.R., Police, Liverpool Street, B Clayton B No. 7 PI., A Coy. 12th Bucks H.G. B Styal Transport PI. 93rd Lanes. H.G. A .. W. 4 4 3 2 2 0 S. W . 9 9 D. 0 0 1 1 0 0 D. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 L. s 5 5 6 7 9 L. 0 8 7 5 4 0 P. 18 16 14 14 12 6 6 6 6 4 4 Agg 4274 4209 4208 4209 4210 4239 Agg- 4301 4296 4298 4262 4295 4227 4224 4206 2834 4201 4185 4042 S.W. D.L.P. Agg. 990 018 4324 97 02 '144276 97 0214 4258 9 702 ■ 144235 950 410 4186 941 49 4224 9 41 494130 9 405 84241 9216 5 4172 9 207 44154 91 173 3863 90 090 4032 S.W. D.L.P. Agg. 981 017 4330 980 1 164300 970 2144343 952212 4302 9513II 4266 9 50410 4269 9 4058 4255 94 058 3763 93 066 4253 92 165 4193 90 18I3440 9 0 0902222 S.W. D. L.P. Agg. 99 0 0184320 98 0116 4250 97 02144328 96 03124297 9 504ID4195 950 4 103779 940 583775 9 30 6 6 4228 9 306 64198 9 207 44241 9 108 04254 9 108 2' 4193 S. W.D.L. P. Agg. 99 00 184330 97 1 154341 97 02 144290 97 02144222 9 6 0 312 4239 9 50 410 4181 9 414 9- 4196 9 3066 4204 92 074 4I7I 92 074 4078 91 0824103 90 0 9 0 3645 S. W.D. L. P. Agg. 9801164300 9 80] 164295 98 0I164260 970 214 4264 950 4104222 940 58 4256 940 58 4163 930 664201 921 654174 9 21 654174 9 20 74 4199 90 0 90 2628 S.W. D.L.P. Agg. 98 0116 4276 97 02144270 97 02144261 97 02144222 9 603124220 95 04104183 94 05 84219 94058 4195 9 40584181 9 10824075 9I 08 2 3534 9 0090 2519 WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UKSeptember, 1943. T H E R I F L E M A N 53 DIVISION 29. Lincolnshire Road Car Employees A Croydon and District Wardens 'B .. London Transport, Hackney, T/B H.G. D a i m l e r C No. 33 Plat G Gov. 6th Beds. Bn. H.G. B Coy. 66th West'Riding Bn. H.G. B H a n d l e y P a g e D . U . I . Chambon H.G. B Petworth and District Ladies H a w k e r A i r c r a f t E . . Maiden B B C o y. 9 3 r d L a n e s . S t . H e l e n s B n . H . G . B DIVISION 30. Burton and District H.G. A Egham Node! Point A C h e a m L a d i e s Metropolitan Police K Division Metropolitan Police S Division B Surflcet H.G W e a l d s t o n e N o r t h W a r d e n s A H a w k e r A i r c r a f t F . . A C o y. 1 7 l h N o r t h u m b e r l a n d B n . H Mobile Unit D Coy. 1st Lindsey No. 8 Plat B Coy. 7th Berks Bn. H F e l t h a m a n d D i s t r i c t C DIVISION 31. Chloride H.G. A King's Lynn Sugar Factory A R o t h e r h a m J u n i o r s . . CalTerata and Co. Ltd. H.G. A W i c k h a m H . G . A . . St. Albans Mirfield Special Constabulary Royal Observer Corps, Usk. A Metropolitan Special Constabulary Swinton Special Constabulary C a l e d o n i a n B u s C o . A No. 32 Maintenance Unit R.A.F. C DIVISION 32. C r o w n C o r k A Metropolitan Police A Division Aux. South Molton Special Constabulary C B . P. C . M . W o u l d h a m W o r k s B S. Smith and Sons C Paisley Police B Notting Hill Police C Meridian B Summerfield B A c r e M i l l s A H a w k e r A i r c r a f t G . . E a s t M o l e s e y P o l i c e DIVISION 33. 1. Standon 2. Automotive 3. Birmingham City Police A Division B .. 4. D Plat. C Coy. 6th London Bn. H.G. A .. 5. Chambon H.G. C 6. B.V .P .M. and N.N.P .M. B 7. Sunbury and District B 8. S.T.C., New Southgate C 9. 55th Kent Bn. H.G. B 1 0 . M i d l a n d B a n k B 11. Barnstaple Special Constabulary B 1 2 . J e s s o p s B DIVISION 34. 1. H.M.S. Europa A 2 . D o r c h e s t e r P o l i c e 3. Manlove Alliott and Co. Ltd 4. British Legion, W allington, E 5. Hythe and District U.S. A 6. Lavender Hill Police Sub-Div. B 7 . K o d a k D 8 . B i r l e c A 9. No. 5 Plat D Coy. 22nd C. of Lanes. A 10. Women's Home Defence, Lincoln 11. Air Ministry B 1 2 . To w e r s S p o r t A DIVISION 35. 1 . E l t h a m A . I . D . B 2. Northampton Police .. 3. Colne Electricity Dept. A 4. Ransome and Maries Co. Ltd 5. Weybridge B 6. Regents Park .. 7. A.I.D. Unit, Kidbrooke B S. Ballito B 9, T onanti .. • • • . -a 10. Women's Home Defence, Golders Green 11." Mobile Unit 1st Lindsey Bn. H.G. C 12. London Transport, Entield, B DIVISION 36 1. No. 16 Plat. 43rd C. of London H.G. A 2 . N o r t c l s A 3. L. T. Fulwcll Trolley Bus C .. 4. Metro. Women Police A Division .. 5. Twickenham Police B 6. A. S. Smith and Sons Ltd. B S.W.D.L.P. Agg. 980I164235 97I1154243 970214 4276 9603124256 9603124219 9504104238 9504104232 941494209 930664212 910823663 9018I4133 9018 •I3629 S.W.D.L. P.Agg. 980I16 4302 9 720 164287 9801 16 421 1 961213 4251 9 6 12134198 9 405 8 4174 940 <; 8 4150 9 4058 4084 92074 3626 910a2391 1 91082 3826 9I0s23420 S.W.D.L.P. Agg. 9900IS 4284 9801164231 9702144191 9504104186 9504104141 950410401 1 940584164 93I573619 9- 3066 3653 92I652714 9207441 14 90 090 852 S.W.D.L.P. Agg. 9801164294 9702-144276 9702144216 9702144131 9504104183 9504104173 94a 5 8 4096 93 06 64101 9 3066 4072 92074 4143 9 ■> 0743995 9 I 0823676 S. W.D.L. P. Agg.. 9 81017 4285 9 80116 4298 9 71115 4237 9 60312 4223 9 50410 4187 94058 4152 9 30.66 4099 9 3066 3521 9216s 4144 9 T 165 4107 92074 4177 92074 3957 S. W. D. L.P. Agg. 9 801 16 4309 9 702 144235 9 6 012 4226 960 124147 950410 4224 9 50410 3734 94 14941 17 9405 8 4210 940 58 4206 9216 5 3660 9207 44086 90090 3515 S.W.D. L.P. Agg. • 98 01164237 97 11154197 9 612134157 96 12134143 9 504104157 94149 4085 940584125 94058 3132 94058 2593 930663943 91082 3853 9009 0 1233 S. w.D. L.P. Agg. 990 0 184277 9 8 I017 4175 Q 612134199 9504104159 950 410 4050 9 5041041 13 7 . R o t h e r h a m F 8 . C i t y o f L o n d o n P o l i c e W . A . P. C . A 9. Royal Observer Corps, Worthing .. 10. Harrow Civil Defence A 1 1 . H a w k e r A i r c r a f t H 12. Cafleratd D DI\aSION 37. 1. Metropolitan Police R Division B 2. London Transport, Sidcup, A 6. Downe House B 4. Portsmouth City B .. 5 . M i d l a n d B a n k C 6. 55th Kent Bn. H.G. C 7. L.N.E.R., Scunthorpe H.G. A 8. At^as and Norfolk Works D 9. No. 4 Maintenance Unit R.A.F. C 10. B Coy. 8th E. Riding Bn. H.G. D 11 . H a w k e r A i r c r a f t I . . , . . 12. Transport Plat. 93rd C. of Lanes. B DIVISION 38. 1. 2 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11 . 12. Birmingham City Police A T h a t c h a m H . G . a n d C . D . B CardifT City D M e t r o P o l i c e W D i v i s i o n B . . London Transport, Tottenham, B Prescot B No. 9 PI. 2nd Berkshire Bn. H.G. Bristol Aeroplane Co. C Barrhead H.G. A D C o y . 1 3 t h M i d d l e s e x B n . H . G . Royal Aircraft Establishment C Lincoln Centre DIVISION 39. 1 . T r u m a n ' s A . R . P 2. Slyvechale, Coventry 3. Heston and Isleworth Elect. Dep. B 4. L.T. Trolley Bus, West Ham, B 5 . H u n t l e y a n d P a l m e r ' s 6. CaR'erata Ladies 7 . A . S . S m i t h a n d S o n s L t d . C 8 . T w i c k e n h a m P o l i c e C 9 . C a l e d o n i a n B u s C o . B 1 0 . K i n g ' s L y n n S u g a r F a c t o r y B 1 1 . M a l t b y C i v i l D e f e n c e C 1 2 . W i c k h a m H . G . B DIVISION 40. 1. Cardif f H.G. 2 . W a l i h a m s t o w T r o l l e y B u s . . 3 . C r o w n C o r k B 4. Meridian C .. . . .... 5. Portsmouth City Special Constables 6. Flettons Ltd., C 7. Chambon H.G., D .. 8. B. Coy., 8th East Riding H.G., E 9. Hammersmith Police B 1 0 . Q u e e n M a r y ' s H o s p i t a l 11. 1308 Squad. Fawley Flight A.T.C. 1 2 S u n b e a m T a l b o t DIVISION 41. Harrogate Sea Cadets Croydon A District Wardens C 19ih Plat., 43rd County of London Bn. H.G. Barnstaple Special Constabulary C L i n c o l n s h i r e R o a d C a r E m p l o y e e s B A.T .A., Hamble A.S.T P u l s o m e t e r B . . D. Coy., 1st Buckinghamshire Bn., H.G. B Warwash Plat., D Coy., 14th Hampshire Bn. B . L . . W e m b l e y B M i d l a n d B a n k D No. 7 Training Bn. Royal Engineers DIVISION 42. H.M.S. Europa B • Darlington Wardens H Group British Enka B London Transport Southall A Hythe and District U.S., B Wood Green Police Sub-Division .. W e a l d s t o n e N o r t h W a r d e n s B Llwchwr . H.G. and Civil Defence I l f r a c o m b e B ( 7 2 2 A . T . C . ) . . • • • • No. 5 Plat.. D Coy., 22nd Lanes H.G., B W i t h a m B No. 6 Plat., B Coy., 23rd Staffs. H.G. .. DIVISION 43. 38th Warwicks H.G.. A , London Transport T.B. Fulwell, D T h a t c h a m H . G . , a n d C . D . , C . . No. 1454 Harrow S, Squadn., A.T.C» R o c h d a l e W a r d e n s B . . . . • • Womens Home Defence Hendon A London Transport Alperton Greenwich G.E.C., Wembley H.G.. A Prescot C A . B . C . M o t o r s A C r o s s w a y s A S.W.D.L.P. Agg. 94058 4043 94058 4140 94058 3686 92074 3958 910823704 90090 3941 S.w.D.L.P. Agg. 980'1164147 970o144198 9612134158 951311 4184 950410 .4102 950410 3174 94058 4166 932484093 940584037 90664049 9 1082 3305 9 10822045 S.W.D.L.P. Agg. 9900184198 9702144225 9702144197 9513114108 9504104089 9504103648 940584088 9315 7 3621 930664088 930664087 920744015 900903954 S.W.D.L.P.Agg. 9801164191 9 702144202 9 702144159 960 3124086 950 4104090 9405 8 4108 9405 8 4058 931574231 930664054 92263933 920742720 9 T 1733965 S.w.D.L.P.Agg. 980I16 4287 9801164189 9702144177 9702144099 9603124093 9 504104161 9 5 0410 4016 930 6 63909 920 74 3980 910823799 91 .0 823773 9!0822680 S.W.D.L.P.Agg. 9810174250 9702144155 96!8134167 960312 4103 9 60312 4093 95 0410 4148 95 04 104136 930664047 93066 3595 9 ■y 0744075 920744013 90090 S. w.D.L.P. Agg. 99 00 184309 9 8 01 164243 97 0 2144251 9603124099 95 04 104151 9 S 04104138 941494152 93 06 63625 920 7- 43824 9I I7 34125 9 0 27">2338 900 9 02897 S.w.D.L.P.Agg. 9 8 0 1164216 980 - 1 16 4190 9702144164 960312 4157 9SI311 4138 95I3 U 4083 950 4104053 9306 6 4014 9207 43720 920 74 3466 9 T 082 3967 9009 0395 WWW.RIFLEMAN.ORG.UKNext >