< PreviousC 0 ~ P 0 N E N T . ~ scre w s fixinz Barre l. ' ' Leaf ' ' ' ' f>l i de . ' ' Ca tch,slid e . ' • S t r i k er . v Swivel , Butt. -, ' ' F ore -end. ' 1 Stoo k . ' ' MaGaz in e patt: " Stud , BarreJ . . . -~. '' 1 , Ma~a zine pat t : ·,,; Trigg e r .• ~ Tr av , Butt Plate. ' 1 Wa sher, Din, a xis, si3ht, ). back. ). . , , , s c rew , f i x ih3 b a.r re l. ,, Swivel,Fore-end. - Oil Bott l e . ~ Pull tru· ..-mgh . ' ' We i J ht. ' , Brus h . I·ft A T r: R I A L • 1\..:i l d St ee l. ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' Ca st S t·3e l. Mi l d St e el. ' ' I ' Ca st Steel. ]v:ild st ee l. ' , ' ' ' ' ' ' Italian Walnut. , , ' ' Mil d Steal. ' ' ' ' Cast St ee l. Delta or Gun Metal. I•tild Steel • ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' Br a ss. ( Sl)Oon, i r•on.) Whip Cord. Brass. Bris t l e s. F I H J S H • Bl ued. Br oYme d. , ' , ' ' ' ' ' : Pa rtially Hardened & Temp ered. , , Blued. ' , : t--ti : ~ Blacked • ' ' ' ' ' ' Partially Har d ened & Tempered. Polished. i c,;t i "' Blacke<i. I i J l ' ,. ,' I ~ ) ! ' ' Polished . SPECI.AL TO ~U ?LES F T·r TED WITH lvt.\Gl':.Z D JE . I I I ' I \q .'t4) BARREL :- q ~ BOLT:- The Body to b e screwed to the Barrel , Backsight to be dovetailed in Baj'rel and fixed j_n position by leaf spring screw. The fore-sight block to be dovet ailed and to be a driving fit. Length of Barrel fror!:! :race of' chamber to muzzle 24 inches. Tho radius of sights I~· 3 7 i nc..\1 es The chamber and rifling to be in accordance ·with drawing R.S.A.F. 2172. The Bolt to be hardened & tempered at rear end ~ also front end of stoD recess. \0 ~) \\~ y~- (~) COCKING PIECE:- To be hardened and tempered at bent. LOCKING BOLT STEM:-To be hardene d and te8pered at cam end. Jvtf\HJ SPRIHG :- To be best bright steel wire No 19 S.W.G. ( \ \'1:> ~ ·sE:ffi :- \\\- (~ STRIKER: -- .... \"J ( n-) TRIGGER:- 20 coils,2%" long, hardened,tempered & blazed off. To be hardened and tempered at Cocking piece::end, also bolt stop,this stop to projest through the Body .06" above bore of bolt hole. The poi.nt only to be hardened & temD er ed . To b e h arrlened & t e~pere d at the top edge which bears on Body. \ ~ RIFLE , i~SSEMBiillD :- \'P . \ < .-\ The Rifles will be exa:mj_ned by an upright vi ew :ror workmanship , accurac y & finish of components , and ,~ene:eal assembl in[; . The chamber & bore of Barrel vr:i. ll be gauge d vrith Dlug gaug es . The pull.:.off _fi , :'d to weigh from 5 to 6 lbs,_ -' -{ . . . ) . / ..., •/ ; ./ -' . ~ . . ' i Total length of rifle 3ft 5~ inchex. A spar e na6azine compl et e to be suppl i ed for each Magazine Rifle , the with any Arm. ~-=-of A./ J The BirminchanJ. Small Anns Md Webley miniature rifles l. I I . ~ . ,. ! have been thorouchlY td.ed for shootiR~ and handiness of I I 1 extractioR etc. - i I . ' With regard to the shootin, there is practically nothi:a~ j to choose between them - they both group very welJl.. I : . . ' J: The . Webley w-oUld -require adjustin~ for d.ir~ctioa and i I ' ·:...·· -~· · ' - elevatio:At a.Rd the complete hood obscur~~ the li~ht and, the foresight is J.JOt q~ite upricht - all simJ?+e matters. j We found no failures ;i~ extraction - I63 rounds from I ! each rifle were fired, but ejection :i,.s nQt quite stron" enough I I i11_. t he Webley to throw 1:;he case elear as i \ _ occaaionally drops I l back in froni; of thebolt; in the B. s. A. the ejt::ct;io:n is I I 1 very faulty the caae beine re ·tained by the hook of the extrac";or·: This can I think be remedied by a slightly higher ejector screw and a little more c+e~ance betweem bolt face aRd extractor ho_ok. The loadiRg arrangement in the B. s. A. l.e. - the : i . 1 trou~h system - is ~ood-as already Roticed,-and works well. I ! 'When the "sights" are d~cided on; attentiolll must be paid to seein(; that there are ~o sharp corners for the boys I to cut their hands ill drilHn~:. The sl.j;hts ill. these rifles · ! are to.o sharp at the corners. i The "balance" too of the Webley requires slight I al teratio• for drill pul1loses. The method of replacu, the bolt of the B.S.A. is liked - considered too difficult f'or the boy, but-- c.ouid be· simplified. The Webley is very simple and is liked. · Re~ardini: the fore-si~ht a.Rd V of backsi~ht· , it foUl!.d here that the B.S.A.fore-aie;ht is of x one of the v~s are rie;ht. Q"LE & PO LD E N, LTD ., PRINT ERS , ALOr ii_S ><OT. 26,6~8 lOO re.un. f -1~ W l 93 r· ·, .. I I • - ·- _· :. ' • -- ~: . ~:.: ~ What is wanted is that the width of ''V" should be as of "Chat in th e B. S. A., but the ''V" must be cut of a more- acute aa~le i.-e. de ep er, or t as deep ac;ain. En field'Lock 1 r··, ~- ·. r· · ... ·: I9-I2-05 • • .L. • \ ' Chief Inspr. · of Small Arms • . · I " ' ' - .. ' . i i j f ! I I / V ~· _,, 1/ t...-- <.......--,.· - ~., I.-· Il! EETING OF i·.UNIATURE RIFLE COMMITTEE, 14th December, 1q05. Points selected for embodiment in proposed miniature rifle. l. Butt 6: Grip. 2. Trigger (shape J. 3. Trip.;rser guard. 4. Fore-end. 5. Pull Off. 6. Bed. 1.- .. ~ · t Leaf. Backsin;l:J.t. ( ( t Slide . '-" ( t Horns. ..._ 7. Windgauge. .. 8. Foresight. 9. Foresi~ht nrotector. 10. Action. As in Webley. -do- -do- O.F. shape arranged for inner band but 3 inches shorter than model. . b :/.u.~k ~ .r:. ~.· As in WebJ.ey, if possible A with action selected. As in Webley but with ramp sloped as recom:nended by C.I.S.A. As in Webley but rear face of cap vertical. As in Webley. As in Short ~.E. rifle. As in B.S.A. tunless patent ed). As in B.S.A. but to be ad- justable as in Service pattern. As in O.F. or similar but pivott ed fore and aft. Either B.S.A • . or Webley modified. t_..r · 11. Butt plate (shape). As in B.S.A. 12 . Butt trap. 13. Knob of bolt. 14 . Barre l. 15. Band. As in Webley, or if cheaner a nd effici ent, a circular trap would be pret' erred. Not to be in front of tri ~~e r. Shape as in Short L. E. rifle. W eb l~y or O.F.? Ac c ording as barrel is made in 1 or ~ nieces. One (inner/ 2 or 3 inches , lower than in O.F. model~ i :, Ctt··-u£~~ 16. Swive1.s. Upper as in O.F., lower as in B.S.A. loop and lug being th e sqme size and swivels to take one inch sl ing. 1'7. '.Yood. Wa lnut. 18. J...~a~azine. None need be fitted at present. I· ' \ \ I I I I I ' =- ---...... , (,..;.. ). ' l ..• 'o J "), ~· ·'~,;: ~? 1/ " f( ~ Report on liiniature Rifles. - -- ·-·- .. ·----- _ .. -·---- -... ----- ----·--- - -- I. :Butt & Grip Webley. No difficulty and both eood • t / Webley, no difficulty 3. Shape of tri c;c er cuard Webley, no difficulty 4. Shape of fore-end 0 .F. but lenc;th as in Webley and arranged for L~ner ba~d ~s in O.F. - no difficulty 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Pull Off Backsicht Windc;auce Foresicht Foresic:;ht :Protector Webley - undoubtedly the best 1/ :Bed Webley - no difficulty and ra:mp sloped so as . to r)ff true for 25 yards when slide is at . lO'Ilest position and 200 yards when at highefti Lec;.f Slide Horns I ( WebJ.ey - no difficulty Webley - no difficulty t . ' -~~~- ' (l;pejl"A~ no dif'ficul t~r ·· B.S.A. - no difficulty to fittin~ to leaf viebley• ~ B.S.A. for size of barleycorn ru1d method of :fixinc; 1 but to be ra.ade adjus·cable as in service pat tern I recOl!lrrlend Ho I service pattern , strongly made ai1d a:~ra.nced suitably for e..n adjustabl fore-siGht IO. CJ.eaninc Rod . '(. .... Pull throuch a~d Oil bottle carried i n the butt with flannelette. , .. ,. . '· II. M~.c;azine I2. Action Rods as Morris Tube pattern to be kept for c1ew1inc in store. J I ~;.< ? I recommend d:coppinr; tl1is . The bolt should certain ly do the work of loadinc i.e. the firer should be able to drop the CC!..rtridc;e in the trouc;h of the body e.nd t:he clo sine of the bolt should do the rest: this is done in the :B .S.A, The O.F. action could c-J.so 1Je a.r:rarq~;ed similarly a:..1d , possibly also the Webley. - I make a great \ poi:1t o~ tJ;.is. . .· 1 . ~- . , ' .- . , \ n Ire ,vihol l a ~·e Ql{p . o-' J,e· ue~ ~{ ~i 1 a n· ~· z ·-ile - yi!t sAl .5l-':;;; · .·· -1_~as;r~/e" .. 7 :·<, ~· a a f (;1. • : i ·i · vr ld ,/b -- a -c s:({9-ri)r o'Cu.(<;-e iff.J , . 6 -L ? - :/ ,- · oub , ..:.nd I 0"' 'lbl.;' an~.t:~ • The extractor should n ot t.urn on the b a se of ·c.i1e cartridg e lJut should be arranc ed I as i n the B . S .A. or Greener~. The best 1 ej e ction i~d.ou.btedl§. -t};e-We1Jley but if' their trouc;h oi' body could n"'=t"11e-filled up t h en the B . S .A. is cood (beine like our service ej ec·c.ion) Re the stri}:e:r, it is er:ssen·tial t!le.t the s tril::e:rs}:~oulci be withdrawn. frol!l the base of t!~ e bolt when Sl''l~inc; s a r e eE;.sed Et.nd t h e bolt i is closed- This is best a.rrang edin the ! B . S .A. and O.F. Safety catch The B .S.A. is the best - the 'f"e7'a-so11_b.e"in[: that ~h.e safety arre..n g ement positive l y lock s both cock inc pi e ce a nd ' r\. Weight. . . .. . . ~ ·,e ngth. 'irreJL:- Lei'l gt h. . . . . ~r of ~~oonen ts. ;y catch. on. , ). \ .-..,. .... ~ ' k. :.fi t::., Act.tQl I-: u t t _o.! .=. {tzt t t]"~ .:. I 0 .1.1 b-.~,., v .., c, q 7ob ·. or boz f- ·~~.!. ,. -. t.: , 4ott • '. 1 0.?, :on or ~ ~ }? ~l7..; ~ .......... · -... _ _ , REPORT ON MINIATURE RlFLE S SUBMITTED J3 ·Y. ·- -- --------- -- -- ----- - --- --- B.S.A. Coy. W . W.eener. ' 2".01:~ . h ows l...:.'1 C es • To cockillg piece & b olt in full cock position. . To trig c; Cl.l:ld cockine :piece i..l1lll cocked ; ,& fired s:i..t.ion. j Strong a...n.d service 1able, loading is ldone by bolt. ! ~~rot welJ.;:~__.e;~<!.k.-lth€j !striker n~'t~nthu- 1 Jdrawn fr :face Of 1 Extractor does :!lOt [l:ol t whet.oadin~, revolve on land is ua.:fe. cartridce case Loading done by ' when bolt is opened !the bolt htraction and 1 ! ejection good. The 'bolt retaining i spring is wes.k and 1 the arran.ge:aen t : poor, the bolt would 1 easily be lost • The striker is with~ dra'vn below the fac~ of bolt head when loacli~c <:~nd is safe. Ho • strong and serviceable, but loading is done by hand. The action is cocked by raising the lever of the bolt and is very hard. - ~ / R.S.A.F.Ellfield I Webley & Scott No .2. :rro • Same as Ho .I. 45 To cocki..n.g piece. 4I + inches. I .,. ! 1 24f inches. I I I 6 i : I turn in 16 i!lChes, 1 ri£ht. ; concentric, croove wide st c..iJO-:J.t 8/3. .2I6 I 48 To striker. Strong and service- j Strong, serviceable, able, loadinG is .& sL~le. Loading is done from the l done b¥ hand, "hut is magazine by the easy. The firing pin he~:l. is wi thdra.wn. from There is a liability face of bolt and is of the striker being safe as the main- ' bent on inserting spring is not ~~der ; the bolt if the coBpression unti1 the i cocking piece is out rifle is at full cock .1 of position. There When rifle is loaded I is also a liability & the breech is ll of the magazine closed the safety . being pushed up in arrangement can be front of the bolt a~plied,but When by the left hand of throwing it out of the firer when the action the bolt is breech is open. turned ru1d the breech opened. At full cock and i..">1 the safe 1 position, the striker ! 1 and head extend a 1 • are unprotected and bending. coeswell & Hal-r:i..son. 4 lbs. I!)i· ozs. 40 0/16 i~'1 C} "leS. 22 incl ~~ es. 4 I i n 16.2 incheE about, iicht. Conce ntr~ c, c roov w ides t :-".bout 5/4 .2 2" 38 To s·c. ~ilcer . The action of thi-s rifle does not co mp are w it} t he ot he rs SUbl.aitted. I I I lon~ way back, and l. liable to injury by ~-- ---- ----------------~ ---- - - -------------- / / .1 / r .. - .. /l , ·;;~ , .:._. ...... ·.../., .._ /" . . . . , ~ . i·; r' )" . . ,- / ' I l \_ \ \ ,..., .,;:-, ...:- · ·' .1. J. • ( ::~ cd. ( ( Leaf . ( i.:' !Wksi~ht. ( ( Slides. ( ( ( Horns. Port:~ n1.::--1:t nrotec tor. ::".ltt -::; l ate . ( 8h1~'e. :nob o :·· 1lo 1 t . t · ( :..,os i t :~ ~n • -__ ... .......... "--·;; ob1oy, ::'eblcy. ... 0 . ~·· . , exc ep t :. t:!'l.~ th ''~ lid end ·:1h! eh t:h.,uld b e !!.S in ~iebloy. \'; eb}cy. ?:cbl ·~ Y. Crcc:1er • s. ? ? ? '? he'b1oy or n.s.A. A' ;; ebl ~Jv but choa ncr./u~......,,.,_ "' I' , ~fr!~~- As in ~hort riflo. ') · nlnut. Next >